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		<title>Comment on BDAT causing SMTP service to drop Email by Julz</title>
		<link>http://joekiller.com/2007/09/19/bdat-causing-smtp-service-to-drop-email/comment-page-1/#comment-6800</link>
		<dc:creator>Julz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 07:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Symantec will be forced to modernize their software.
We use non-microsoft SMTP servers and iPhones use BDAT to send to them. 
People disabling chunking should be aware that they&#039;re potentially making things a little more inefficient for their mobile users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Symantec will be forced to modernize their software.<br />
We use non-microsoft SMTP servers and iPhones use BDAT to send to them.<br />
People disabling chunking should be aware that they&#8217;re potentially making things a little more inefficient for their mobile users.</p>
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		<title>Comment on BDAT causing SMTP service to drop Email by SMTP, ESMTP, and the BDAT baddie &#171; Adaptive Thinking</title>
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		<dc:creator>SMTP, ESMTP, and the BDAT baddie &#171; Adaptive Thinking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2010 00:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that many security appliances do not like the new ESMTP BDAT command, so I googled around and found this JoeKiller article which shed a little light on the subject, and that it was possible to force the session to not use [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that many security appliances do not like the new ESMTP BDAT command, so I googled around and found this JoeKiller article which shed a little light on the subject, and that it was possible to force the session to not use [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on BDAT causing SMTP service to drop Email by Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alan,

I think you will be safe to subtract out the offending SMTP verbs from the total options.  The KB article only focuses on a limited subset of the SMTP commands that IIS&#039; SMTP service offers.  In any case, since they are tied to specific hex values, subtracting out the ones you want to turn off will turn those off.  I would suggest writing down the original just in case things don&#039;t go as planned.  We dumped the product after we fixed this problem due to the slowdown it caused in the mail queue. 

Good luck!

-Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alan,</p>
<p>I think you will be safe to subtract out the offending SMTP verbs from the total options.  The KB article only focuses on a limited subset of the SMTP commands that IIS&#8217; SMTP service offers.  In any case, since they are tied to specific hex values, subtracting out the ones you want to turn off will turn those off.  I would suggest writing down the original just in case things don&#8217;t go as planned.  We dumped the product after we fixed this problem due to the slowdown it caused in the mail queue. </p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>-Joe</p>
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		<title>Comment on BDAT causing SMTP service to drop Email by Alan</title>
		<link>http://joekiller.com/2007/09/19/bdat-causing-smtp-service-to-drop-email/comment-page-1/#comment-3695</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 22:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m having a similar problem, and I found the Symantec SMTP Server with the Metabase Explorer. However, the current value for SmtpInboundCommandSupportOptions is 4546589 and from the MS artile you mention I cannot figure what combination of options is turned on or off from this value. Should I simply subtract the values for Binary and Chunking from this and hope?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having a similar problem, and I found the Symantec SMTP Server with the Metabase Explorer. However, the current value for SmtpInboundCommandSupportOptions is 4546589 and from the MS artile you mention I cannot figure what combination of options is turned on or off from this value. Should I simply subtract the values for Binary and Chunking from this and hope?</p>
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		<title>Comment on In Loving Memory of Joseph Harry Scales Jr. by Sara Ann Moody</title>
		<link>http://joekiller.com/2008/12/27/in-loving-memory-of-joseph-harry-scales/comment-page-1/#comment-3442</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara Ann Moody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 09:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joe,

I am really sorry to hear about your granddad passing.  He was truly an amazing person.  I was blessed to get to know him and spend time with him and your grandma.  Your granddad was a really great storyteller.  I remember when the 3 of us went out in his truck to go see his land the ponds he had built.  I loved hearing his stories about his life.  He always made me feel welcome in his home.  I will always remember him sitting at the head of the table at Thanksgiving saying prayers and telling stories and jokes.  He felt like a grandpa to me after my own grandfather was gone.  I will always hold him close to my heart.  I feel blessed that I got to know him.

Sara</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joe,</p>
<p>I am really sorry to hear about your granddad passing.  He was truly an amazing person.  I was blessed to get to know him and spend time with him and your grandma.  Your granddad was a really great storyteller.  I remember when the 3 of us went out in his truck to go see his land the ponds he had built.  I loved hearing his stories about his life.  He always made me feel welcome in his home.  I will always remember him sitting at the head of the table at Thanksgiving saying prayers and telling stories and jokes.  He felt like a grandpa to me after my own grandfather was gone.  I will always hold him close to my heart.  I feel blessed that I got to know him.</p>
<p>Sara</p>
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		<title>Comment on In Loving Memory of Joseph Harry Scales Jr. by MICHAEL VERLOOP</title>
		<link>http://joekiller.com/2008/12/27/in-loving-memory-of-joseph-harry-scales/comment-page-1/#comment-3441</link>
		<dc:creator>MICHAEL VERLOOP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 22:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JOE SCALES WAS A LONGTIME FAMILY FRIEND TO MY ENTIRE FAMILY.  AS A YOUNG BOY I OFTEN VISITED, SLEPT OVER, AND PLAYED AT THE SCALES FARM IN FIFE, VA.  THE VERLOOP FAMILY&#039;S THOUGHTS ARE WITH YOU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JOE SCALES WAS A LONGTIME FAMILY FRIEND TO MY ENTIRE FAMILY.  AS A YOUNG BOY I OFTEN VISITED, SLEPT OVER, AND PLAYED AT THE SCALES FARM IN FIFE, VA.  THE VERLOOP FAMILY&#8217;S THOUGHTS ARE WITH YOU.</p>
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		<title>Comment on BDAT causing SMTP service to drop Email by Magnus HasselgÃ¥rd</title>
		<link>http://joekiller.com/2007/09/19/bdat-causing-smtp-service-to-drop-email/comment-page-1/#comment-3206</link>
		<dc:creator>Magnus HasselgÃ¥rd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent!

I was troubleshooting a problem similar to this one back in 2005, but from a client-side perspective. The SMTPSVC running on Windows 2000 Server was getting the exact same treatment when forwarding mails with BDAT to an Exchange 5.0 server. I never did figure out why BDAT had stopped working, but I found a workaround that forced the SMTPSVC service to always use DATA instead: change the MetaBase property /LM/SmtpSvc/SmtpOutboundCommandOptions from &quot;7&quot; (the default) to &quot;5&quot;. Undocumented, but worked like a charm. :)

The problem resurfaced at a different installation this week, with Windows 2003 Server and Exhange 6. Now I can tell the Exhange administrators there to take a closer look at their security software - _it_ could actually be dropping BDAT connections, like you describe.

Thanks!

-m-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent!</p>
<p>I was troubleshooting a problem similar to this one back in 2005, but from a client-side perspective. The SMTPSVC running on Windows 2000 Server was getting the exact same treatment when forwarding mails with BDAT to an Exchange 5.0 server. I never did figure out why BDAT had stopped working, but I found a workaround that forced the SMTPSVC service to always use DATA instead: change the MetaBase property /LM/SmtpSvc/SmtpOutboundCommandOptions from &#8220;7&#8243; (the default) to &#8220;5&#8243;. Undocumented, but worked like a charm. :)</p>
<p>The problem resurfaced at a different installation this week, with Windows 2003 Server and Exhange 6. Now I can tell the Exhange administrators there to take a closer look at their security software &#8211; _it_ could actually be dropping BDAT connections, like you describe.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>-m-</p>
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		<title>Comment on Post Goal: Modified by The Disco Duck</title>
		<link>http://joekiller.com/2008/08/20/post-goal-modified/comment-page-1/#comment-3067</link>
		<dc:creator>The Disco Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You did it! Angels are crying. The world can rest easy once again. Joy has been spread throughout the cosmos. Mosquitos have given up spreading the sleeping sickness. LeRoi Moore is in heaven and gives us all a bowl of Cheerios.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You did it! Angels are crying. The world can rest easy once again. Joy has been spread throughout the cosmos. Mosquitos have given up spreading the sleeping sickness. LeRoi Moore is in heaven and gives us all a bowl of Cheerios.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Crazyredbeard and JoeKiller go at it in the podcast part deux by DrDank</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrDank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dude!! the text is SOOO HUGE!!!  LOLOL resizing it makes the page look all screwy hahaha gonna try and watch your podcasts .. IF i can find the links LOL :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude!! the text is SOOO HUGE!!!  LOLOL resizing it makes the page look all screwy hahaha gonna try and watch your podcasts .. IF i can find the links LOL :P</p>
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		<title>Comment on Five Times Half Shack by Some guy who does a radio show</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some guy who does a radio show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You put it up! This one&#039;s going in the Healthy Hippie newsletter. Werd.</description>
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